{"id":8716,"date":"2019-11-23T07:28:29","date_gmt":"2019-11-23T12:28:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/?p=8716"},"modified":"2019-11-23T07:28:29","modified_gmt":"2019-11-23T12:28:29","slug":"eddie-sterns-statements-about-the-crimes-of-pattabhi-jois-post-and-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/eddie-sterns-statements-about-the-crimes-of-pattabhi-jois-post-and-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Eddie Stern\u2019s Statements About the Crimes of Pattabhi Jois (Post and Podcast)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, I released the following video of the late Maty Ezraty <a href=\"http:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/maty-ezraty-fact-checks-eddie-stern-about-the-crimes-of-pattabhi-jois\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">puts Eddie Stern at a meeting<\/a> of senior students in Mysore in the early 1990s, at which Jois\u2019s abuses were openly discussed and acknowledged.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Maty Ezraty on 2016 07 05 at 16 09: &quot;Eddie [Stern] has definitely rationalized this....&quot;\" width=\"1220\" height=\"915\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nPXOc_b1npY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ezraty recalls that she and Chuck Miller decided at that time to actively distance themselves from Jois. Stern went on to help Jois publish a book, to host Jois at U.S. events, and co-edit Guruji, a collection of interviews that glorify Jois.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, Eddie Stern released a statement about the criminality of Pattabhi Jois. The statement is co-signed by his partner Jocelyne and can be found <a href=\"https:\/\/eddiestern.com\/on-k-pattabhi-jois\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a> on his site.<\/p>\n<p>Through present-tense phrases like &#8220;The stories that are being reported on the actions of Pattabhi Jois&#8230;&#8221;, the Sterns imply that they have only become aware of Jois\u2019s abuses recently, or since survivors like <a href=\"https:\/\/theshiftnetwork.com\/blog\/2018-07-09\/metoo-rouses-yoga-community\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Anneke Lucas<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/s\/powertrip\/yoga-guru-pattabhi-jois-sexually-assaulted-me-for-years-48b3d04c9456\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Karen Rain<\/a> have spoken up.<\/p>\n<p>The Sterns&#8217; statement was simultaneously published with this podcast excerpt with Eddie Stern, hosted by Leanne Woehlke.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.simplecast.com\/22cd61e5-9a44-4330-8a6b-b3e86a21a5d7?dark=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200px\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless=\"\"><\/iframe><br \/>\nIn the podcast, Stern says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve read the reports of these women. I didn&#8217;t know what he was doing. And after reading the book, I could confidently know that \u2014 the Matthew Remski book \u2014 I could really confidently say I didn&#8217;t know about those things.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>However, this same book recounts how Anneke Lucas went to Stern in 2001 after Jois assaulted her in New York. Here\u2019s the relevant excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Anneke said that after Jois had returned to India, she went to Eddie Stern to report the groping incident. He was Jois\u2019s host, after all.<\/p>\n<p>According to Anneke, Stern\u2019s wife \u2013 another senior Jois student \u2013 was also at the meeting.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEddie referred to \u2018Guruji&#8217;s unfortunate problem\u2019,\u201d Anneke said, \u201capologized and told me I had done the right thing. His wife also offered words of sympathy.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt the time,\u201d Anneke said, \u201cI was satisfied with the acknowledgment alone. But Eddie carries his share of responsibility by failing to warn me and others, and by persisting in spreading an image of Pattabhi Jois as though he was an enlightened guru.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Nine years later, Anneke showed Stern a draft of the article she was about to publish.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEddie&#8217;s first question was \u2018Why do you want to humiliate him like that?\u2019 to which I answered: \u2018He humiliated himself.\u2019 Eddie agreed with me.\u00a0 \u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/books\/wawadia-main\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PAAIC<\/a>, p. 319)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Additionally, Stern told me via email in July of 2016 that he had flagged the infamous Jois adjustment video as inappropriate content. The video was subsequently deleted from Vimeo, but is now reposted <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=12A_mrdTI6M\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a> (trigger warning).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I am very happy that they pulled it down,&#8221; he wrote, &#8220;and I hope that you will reconsider the need to continue using that video to prove\/make some kind of a point.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In his open letter to John Scott, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/aysnyc\/posts\/1536477229828534\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Guy Donahaye says<\/a> that Stern was a source for confirming Jois&#8217;s assaults:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Eddie Stern acknowledged the abuse and supported my action although he has as yet been unable to make a proper public statement. He is also the person I turned to for confirmation about KPJ&#8217;s actions after Matthew Remski had contacted me.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The structure of the podcast focuses on Stern&#8217;s own pain and concerns that he has been &#8220;targeted&#8221; for enabling Jois over the years. He describes being in therapy, and how he&#8217;s learning to listen.<\/p>\n<p>Woehlke expresses sympathy over Stern being held responsible for Jois&#8217;s actions. She worries aloud that the discourse over Jois&#8217;s criminality will &#8220;undermine the good of a practice that can help so many people and especially someone like yourself who has been one of the primary teachers of this form of the Ashtanga tradition.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Stern told Woelke that the movement to remove images of Pattabhi Jois from shalas \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/yogainternational.com\/article\/view\/how-to-respond-to-sexual-abuse-within-a-yoga-or-spiritual-community\">initiated by Jois survivors like Karen Rain and Jubilee Cooke<\/a> \u2014 constitutes a form of denialism:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think it should be brushed under the rug, which is what I believe people want to do when they want to take Pattabhi Jois&#8217;s photo off the wall and stop using the opening prayer.<\/p>\n<p>Like, okay, you can&#8217;t just sweep the guru under the carpet and then like, everything&#8217;s going to get better.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When Woehlke and Stern begin to discuss solutions to the crisis, he has this to say about the consent movement in modern yoga:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know if consent cards are like the answer. Um, you know, I see people selling consent carbs like all over the place now and I&#8217;m like, what are you turning sexual abuse into another industry? And it&#8217;s just really weird to me. That cuts off an important line of communication to where, you know, I don&#8217;t have to, you know, I don&#8217;t want to, I don&#8217;t want to sound, say the wrong way, but by using a card and just putting it on your mat, all of a sudden now you&#8217;re not communicating with the person who&#8217;s supposed to be your teacher. You just start putting out a stop sign there. One of the reasons I think that we have so many problems in our societies because of difficulty communicating. Like we don&#8217;t know how to communicate. Um, in a lot of ways.<\/p>\n<p>And sometimes there&#8217;s a lot of fear, there&#8217;s a lot of whatever. So I just question and I wonder: would working on communication be a better way to surmount these problems rather than something like consent cards? If people really like consent cards cause they, they&#8217;re truly not able to verbalize it, I don&#8217;t want to remove that from them. Um, I, I just am going to make that observation that people are turning sexual abuse into another industry by selling things like consent cards.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last week, I released the following video of the late Maty Ezraty puts Eddie Stern at a meeting of senior students in Mysore in the early<span class=\"excerpt-hellip\"> [\u2026]<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":8719,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"slim_seo":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[21,85,88,86,109,19,93,81],"tags":[556,102,477,627,103,59],"class_list":["post-8716","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-articles","category-charismatic-abuse","category-cult-dynamics","category-gurus","category-rape-culture","category-yoga","category-yoga-culture","category-yoga-pedagogy","tag-anneke-lucas","tag-ashtanga-yoga","tag-consent-culture","tag-eddie-stern","tag-karen-rain","tag-pattabhi-jois"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8716","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8716"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8716\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8716"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8716"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8716"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}