{"id":5969,"date":"2016-10-08T08:35:44","date_gmt":"2016-10-08T13:35:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/?p=5969"},"modified":"2016-10-08T08:35:44","modified_gmt":"2016-10-08T13:35:44","slug":"discussing-cultural-appropriation-amidst-the-yoga-trolling","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/discussing-cultural-appropriation-amidst-the-yoga-trolling\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussing Cultural Appropriation Amidst the Yoga Trolling"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This notable comment about cultural appropriation in yoga just popped up on <a href=\"http:\/\/matthewremski.com\/wordpress\/am-i-even-teaching-yoga-anymore\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">my post<\/a> called \u201cAm I Even Teaching Yoga Anymore?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Notable, because it shows how reasonableness can occlude emotional intelligence. I\u2019ll paste an excerpt in here in full and then offer some commentary below.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>____<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAt what point is it appropriation? Was it appropriation when the Gandharans started making Buddha statues? Was it appropriation when Vyasa\/Patanjali whoever it was decided to borrow Jain metaphysics for the Yogashastra? Was it appropriation when the Devi-Mahatmya brought the goddess into the Brahmanical worldview? Was it appropriation when Shankara decided the Bhagavad Gita was about non-dualism (a claim that was rigorously fought by Ramanuja, and quite successfully at that)? Was it appropriation when the ontology of Vedanta was combined with Islam and helped to produce what we understand now as Sufism? What about when the Hatha Yogis reinterpreted Buddhist tantras through the framework of a mix of Shaiva ones and Vedanta? Was it appropriation when Vivekananda interpreted the teachings of a man he lived with for a short time, a Kali tantrika, through the frame of theosophy? Was it appropriation when Krishnamacharya looked at the still practicing Hatha yogis in India and decided that wasn\u2019t the true yoga, which bore more resemblance to calisthenics? When K. told AG Mohan among others that the third chapter of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika contained nothing of value due to its inclusion of Vajroli et al?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI find this line of appropriation tells us little and offers us nothing more than the same narrative we\u2019ve always had: Yoga is good, pure and right, and yoga is from India, the source of all that is good and pure and right in the world, and all of the achievements of India stretching back to the Veda are the creation of an eternal order called Hinduism, to the exclusion of everyone else from the sub-continent. This is at best naive and at worst total chauvinism, and it boggles the mind why people that clearly lean left and are skeptical of any kind of essentialism accept it. There is a question embedded in your statement: Who are we calling to mind when we say someone else if the land is clearly India?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>____<\/p>\n<p>So it looks like the commenter did their Religious Studies homework. It\u2019s true: the essentialism of what Andrea Jain calls the \u201cHindu Origins\u201d view of modern yoga doesn\u2019t stand up to scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p>But what kind of scrutiny? The comment implies \u201cThis shouldn\u2019t even be a thing,\u201d when clearly for many people it is definitely a thing. It\u2019s using an academic argument to foreclose an emotional-cultural event. Will it work?<\/p>\n<p>Nah.<\/p>\n<p>The combatants in the cultural appropriation debate are, at least in part, using the subject of yoga as a platform for exercising essentialisms other than that worrying the commenter. Yoga discourse is now the home\u00a0of fraught dialogue over a much more material history than studies of the origins of practices and philosophies can uncover. Its transnational status has produced a cage match about the impacts of transnationality.<\/p>\n<p>For starters, there\u2019s the essential and ongoing condition of white supremacy and the intergenerational trauma of colonization. \u201cThe West has stolen and corrupted yoga\u201d, means what it says, but it is also shorthand for \u201ccolonial brutality irretrievably altered the course of South Asian history, and it feels shitty to watch white people accessorize themselves with the only things they didn\u2019t destroy.\u201d It is a call for repentance, for realizing that the freedom that some privileged people have to self-actualize and chant and drink green juices comes with a hidden historical price tag that the spotlight of the internet can now illuminate.<\/p>\n<p>As one yogi of South Indian heritage recently asked me: \u201cWhy can\u2019t y\u2019all play with the trinkets of your own past? Not interesting anymore?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The call\u00a0pushes the tender buttons of white guilt, but draws out something deeper as well: an essential feeling I believe exists not only on the Right via puritanical conservatism but also on the Left via postmodern ennui: the yearning for\u00a0<em>something<\/em>\u00a0inviolate, authentic, and sacred in the chaos of the technocapitalism from which we shamefully benefit.<\/p>\n<p>When things are bleak, the\u00a0Left will take\u00a0any vision of coherence it can get.<\/p>\n<p>_____<\/p>\n<p>Maybe the discussion of the integrity of yoga is really a discussion about integrity. Listen carefully to how the appropriation critics always reach for <em>depth<\/em> as the litmus test for integrity. \u201cYoga is not a fitness fad,\u201d they\u2019ll say.<\/p>\n<p>(Our commenter above might reply that this ignores the fact that it was Indian modernizers who first backgrounded moksha to market yoga as a wellness discipline. They still wouldn\u2019t be listening.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a path that demands ethics and meditation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(The commenter might reply that all serious global practitioners acknowledge and practice this. Still not listening.)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a path that leads to liberation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(The commenter says \u201cI know that.\u201d But what liberation are we\u00a0talking about? Textbook freedom? Interpersonal freedom? Intercultural freedom?)<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a stalemate, unless the commenter listens between the lines.<\/p>\n<p>Does it make sense to think that the anti-appropriation side believes it can police the internal experience or intentions of non-Indian practitioners? Who would be so grandiose as to think that? How would they even know it had been accomplished, that the formerly appropriative non-Indian yoga person was now legit, and not just another pretender who\u2019s taken a Sanskrit name or who\u2019s bowing down before a saffron robe because of unresolved Daddy issues?<\/p>\n<p>The argument isn&#8217;t just about personal depth or character. Anti-appropriators are consistently appealing to <em>historical<\/em> depth, the depth of memory, to a fundamental honesty about the inequities that have happened between peoples. Inequities so blatant and present that Indian per capita income in 2015 was 1600 USD, and so internalized that some Indian folks try to whiten their skin to get ahead.<\/p>\n<p>If honesty and recognition of global inequality were a hallmark of global yoga, if non-Indian people generally connected personal practice with concrete efforts to support global equality, would some other version of moksha be felt?<\/p>\n<p>Anti-appropriaters can never really answer the question of what those they accuse of appropriating should do to make amends. Why should they? Historical restitution is not accomplished through good-behaviour checklists. It&#8217;s\u00a0approached through the hard effort of ongoing relationship. I.e., <em>not<\/em> like what our Canadian Prime Minister Selfie Trudeau does, making a show of care for First Nations and then building pipelines through their unceded lands.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not about saying a creed or getting the footnotes right. It\u2019s about looking the other in the eye and saying <em>I\u2019m going to surrender to relationship with you.<\/em> Maybe that\u2019s a good remix of <em>isvara pranidhana<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not trying to romanticize the task or sugar-coat the context. It\u2019s not all earnestness and people trying their best to navigate deep wounds. There are some folks you\u2019re better off not looking in the eye. There are anti-appropriationists who co-opt the language of social justice to forward reactionary politics. There are participants in these debates who are simply trolling.<\/p>\n<p>Included would be non-Indians on the anti-appropriation side who are clearly dealing with their own cultural alienation by finding validation in a new gang. If that means tacitly endorsing the politics of the Indian right, that\u2019s a fair price for entry. Then there are people out to ruin the reputations of people they think are competitors, and they\u2019ll spread lies to do it. There are people I\u2019d swear are drunk-posting. There are roving bands of commenters who don\u2019t even bother to read the thread they\u2019re summoned to before seizing it to wag the dog. And I\u2019m about 97% sure that there\u2019s this one Jekyll and Hyde dude who\u2019s using multiple pseudonyms to argue both sides vociferously on multiple groups\u00a0and sites just to whip shit up, while carefully maintaining an entirely different real-world persona.<\/p>\n<p>Deep emotions are easy to illicit by internet predators, and yogaland offers no end of content to rile the emotions of people sensitive enough to be attracted to yoga.<\/p>\n<p>_____<\/p>\n<p>Two days ago I shared <a href=\"http:\/\/religiondispatches.org\/baba-ramdev\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a solid article<\/a> by professional scholars outlining Baba Ramdev&#8217;s documented homophobia and his ties to the current Indian government. A yoga culture war debate broke out like a rash. It featured the old standbys of rage, yoga bypassing, yogasplaining, yoga piety pissing contests, more rage, strawmanning, dehumanization, scapegoating, religious bigotry, accusations of racism against LGBTQI activists commenting on the plight of queer Indian people, diversions via link-dumping, more rage, summoning reinforcements through mass tagging, crass reductions of complex social ills for ideological gain, gaslighting and ad hominem circularity.<\/p>\n<p>Beneath it all, there were also some good points made about cultural appropriation and privilege.<\/p>\n<p>What to do? Leave it alone? Moderate? Block?<\/p>\n<p>I really really don\u2019t like blocking. I counted up all the reasons why. There are eight.<\/p>\n<p>First: there are real people behind those words, and I myself fear abandonment.<\/p>\n<p>Second: the id-content of the trolling remark reveals an emotion or politics I want to understand and sometimes feel.<\/p>\n<p>Third: people are often inconsistent with their trolling behaviour and it can be worth it to take the bad with the good. Plus, people change their behaviour. Not often, but sometimes.<\/p>\n<p>Fourth: my posts are usually provocative and I have a lot of blind spots and make a lot of mistakes, so it&#8217;s only fair to expose myself to as much and as varied criticism as I can get.<\/p>\n<p>Fifth: when the content of dispute is so often about which voices are privileged and which are silenced, blocking should be an utterly last resort.<\/p>\n<p>Sixth: taking responsibility for the white and male privilege wrapped up in accumulating this platform demands recognizing that a little aggression is peanuts compared to structural inequality and the best thing to do is listen and feel all the feelings instead of policing the feelings of others.<\/p>\n<p>Seventh: Some parts of some exchanges are helpful before they become troll-y. Blocking people breaks the record of exchange, often making the argument unintelligible for those who want to follow. I bristle at this from a labour perspective. People put time and effort into this, and blocking can erase way more labour than is just.<\/p>\n<p>Eighth: the self-selection bias of this platform&#8217;s network model means that we are all subject to malnourishment by too many confirming views. To wit: I doubt there is a single Trump supporter amongst 5000 friends here. That&#8217;s a huge problem.<\/p>\n<p>However, my page also hosts many whose speech has been chilled and silenced because of the flaming. They\u2019ve told me so in private messages and in person. Ironically, these are always people who value social justice, religious tolerance, cultural respect, checking privilege, intellectual honesty and civility in relation to discourse around yoga\u2019s self-inquiry and service practices. That they are too intimidated to contribute their sensitive perspectives is a total drag.<\/p>\n<p>It is also a fact that professional scholars of yoga &#8212; both Indian and non-Indian &#8212; have been terrorized by the trolling these contentious subjects attract. This is an outrage. But even trolling is just the tip of the iceberg for those who endure structural and somatic oppression every day. Like when gay people have to read comments claiming that Ramdev\u2019s promise that yoga can cure homosexuality and his efforts to keep homosexuality criminalized are harmless opinions because he doesn\u2019t hold office. I can be all circumspect and equanimous about such commenters in my hetero cis-burb, but they can\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>I know that some media outlets ban all trolling, while others are simply closing their comment departments altogether. So it seems that there&#8217;s a gathering consensus that trolling is harassment, and not protected speech. That feels right.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure what to do, but I&#8217;m paying close attention to it. At the heart of the matter for me is a confusion about identity and ownership in this real estate: whether the trolling comment is my problem, given that it&#8217;s a personal page, or the problem of everyone who dialogues here, given its public accessibility. If it&#8217;s the latter, what is my responsibility to the whole?<\/p>\n<p>Part of me leans towards fostering safety through blocking, knowing that there are many environments in which those compelled to be abusive or distractive can freely operate. But another part is afraid that if I block people I will encourage polarization, and degrade the opportunities for listening that allow me and perhaps others to feel our way into the emotions beneath the rhetoric. I can\u2019t imagine a blanket policy that would work. 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